9/11/2017

EP - Why the stony silence

The PAP has been vigorously defending this controversial concept of a reserved EP for the Malays. Oops, let me correct my statement. The non Malay PAP ministers and what else have been working overtime standing up to defend this EP reserved for the Malay race that Chan Chun Sing said would cost a heavy political price. Hope the PAP still have some political capital to squander away.

Chok Tong was also very careful in his criticism of this reserved EP for the Malays and was quoted to have said, “The reserved election this year is quite unpopular with a large proportion of the population because it goes against the principle of meritocracy.” Is that all?

What is strange about this reserved EP for the Malays is the stony silence. Did anyone notice this? The defenders of this reserved EP for the Malays that is good for the Malays are mainly the non Malay PAP ministers and MPs.

Why are the Malay ministers and MPs so quiet about this sordid affair? Do they have anything to say to support and defend this reserved EP for the Malays? Or are they afraid or not sure that this thing is really good for the Malays? And this goes to the rest of the Malay community, the Malay community not defined by the PEC, out there. They too seem to be avoiding talking about it. As for the Malay ministers and MPs, is it a case of better not say anything than to say something and get condemned by the Malay community?

So it is now left to the magnanimous and charitable non Malay PAP ministers and MPs to champion this Malay cause. The Malay community must be very grateful for this unsolicited support from the non Malay PAP politicians and would definitely vote wholeheartedly in the next GE for the PAP for changing the Constitution to give them a Malay President. Otherwise, the system would not allowed the PAP to appoint a Malay as the President like they used to during the time of President Yusoff Ishak under the old system.

What heavy political price was Chan Chun Sing talking about when the Malay votes would now all go to the PAP? Isn't this the main objective of this constitutional change for this controversial reserved EP for the Malays? The Malays are going to have a Malay President with the blessing of the PAP.

60 comments:

Anonymous said...

The silence is frightening. It seems the EP is already over. Spotlight is now on the newly appointed Speaker of Parliament. PAP and MSM are telling everyone that it is not a demotion. Haiz!

Anonymous said...

Well, it works all the time because telling that to the daft does not matter whether they believe it or not.

All the same, stupidity has no cure.

Anonymous said...

//What heavy political price was Chan Chun Sing talking about when the Malay votes would now all go to the PAP?//

Basically, this reserved EP is a non issue at all. The PAPies won't cost any political price to them even if Harimau lost in an open election. But the one to bear the blunt r the majority Sinkies, why, cos some Sinkies felt it go against the principle of the national pledge '..regardless of race, language & religion..", & a committee formed to certify a Malay is somehow unconstitutional ( as some academics pointed out but the MIWS don't really care)..with the PAPies favourite president in place it will be an ez job for Ah Long & next PM ( most likely Ah Chan, Laulan Wong, Heng Ah, Desmond, Ng CM or whoever )..

Anonymous said...

Now the whole globe knows they need help in this meritocratic nation . . .

Anonymous said...

And this goes to the rest of the Malay community, the Malay community not defined by the PEC, out there. They too seem to be avoiding talking about it.
RB

Because they are smart Sinkies mah, just like smart Sinkies avoid fighting against PAP in elections.

And unlike Chee Soon Juan and Tan Cheng Bock, smart Sinkies don't fight losing battles, u know, or do useless things, except maybe for shiok.

And it is not shiok to talk about the reserved for Malay EP, tio bo?

Anonymous said...

...do useless things, except maybe for shiok.
8:59 am

Masturbate is shiok, although useless for making babies.

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Anonymous said...


Hahaha.......

To me it is ok whoever from whichever race to be our next EP.

Be it H. It is ok. Really it is prefectly ok.

Dont waste anymore time and resources on the issue of EP.

Just do it!

Cheers!

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patriot said...


Please be kind to the Regime whose members are knows all expurts in everything.
Do You not see Ministers going fron 1 ministry to another as though they are competent and qualified anywhere in any field. What about a minister incharge of few ministries?

THE SIN PRESIDENT IS DUTY BOUND TO ENSURE THAT THE GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS WITHOUT ABUSE AND COMPETENCY. THIS INCLUDES NO MALPRACTICE OF CRONYISM, NEPOTISM AND DESPOTISM.
THAT STATE MONEY IS PROPERLY MANAGE AND NOT MISUSE.
DID ANY OF THE SIN PRESIDENT THUS FAR FULFILL THEIR DUTIES?

THE OUTGOING PRESIDENT TONY TAN HAD BEEN GALIVANTING AROUND THE GLOBE TO ATTEND OLYMPIC AND HAVING PHOTOSHOOTS WITH OUR FIRST EVER GOLD MEDALIST. SO WERE A FEW OTHER CABINET MEMBERS.
Tony Tan by the Way happens to be the GIC Chief before he was Sin President. GIC was reported to have lost tens of billion Sin Dollars during his helm.

When the First Family was broiled in domestic quarrel over claims by the Siblings of the lncumbent Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong for abuse and misuse of power. And that the Sin Prime Ministers' Wife had removed and takened documents with permission and authorization, President Tony Tan did NOT take any action nor make any statement about the ISSUES WHENCE THEY WERE BROUGHT INTO THE SIN PARLIAMENT BY NONE OTHER THAN THE SIN PRIME MINISTER LEE HSIEN LOONG HIMSELF.
There were speculations in Cyberspace of DERELICTION OF DUTY WITH REGARD THE FIRST FAMILY DISPUTE AS WELL AS THE MUCH LOSSES MADE BY TEMASEK HOLDINGS AND OTHER STATE INVESTMENT ORGANS.

THERE WERE PLENTY OF TRAIN DISRUPTIONS AND OTHER PUBLIC AMENITIES BREAKDOWNS WITH SOME RESULTING IN CASUALTIES AND FATALITIES.
WHAT DID TONY TAN DO ABOUT ALL THE AFFAIRS OF THE STATE?
ZILT BUT HE WAS PAID MILLIONS OR MAYBE TENS OF MILLION SIN DOLLARS
ATTENDING OLYMPIC, NATIONAL DAY PARADE AND TRAVELLING THE GLOBE.

DO WE NEED A SIN PRESIDENT???


patriot

patriot said...


'.....the Prime Munisters' Wife had removed and takened
documents withOUT permission and authorization,'

My apology for missing out the Word
OUT
in the Sentence.


patriot

Anonymous said...

DO WE NEED A SIN PRESIDENT???
patriot 9:14 am

70% said they need PAP.

And PAP said they need a SIN PRESIDENT, or rather a MALAY SIN PRESIDENT.

So there you are, we are going to have a MALAY SIN PRESIDENT.

Does that answer your question?

Anonymous said...

After Ong Teng Cheong, all 'chiak liao bee' and 'cho bo lan'.

By the way, did they find out how much is our reserves that Ong Teng Cheong asked?

If not, what are they watching?

Anonymous said...

If not, what are they watching?
9:25 am

They are watching only what PAP allow them to watch.

If PAP don't even allow them to watch, then they become 'chiak liao bee' and 'cho bo lan' lor.

But with million dollar salaries, why would they care what Sinkies think of them? If I were them, I would not care too.

patriot said...


Dear Anon 9:22am;

Thank You very much
for the Kind Response.
Frankly,
Your Reply is NOT satisfactory because it
did not answer whether there was DERELICTIONS OF DUTIES BY CURRENT AND OR PAST SIN PRESIDENTS.
AND
HOW DID SINKIES VIEW THE DERELICTIONS OF DUTIES OF THE SIN PRESIDENTS AND HIS/HER OTHER RULERS?

YOU ARE VERY RIGHT THOUGH THAT 70%
DONT
CARE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT THEIR RULERS ARE DOING
AND
I MUST SAY TIAT I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.

THAT IS WHY I DO NOT SEE
THE NEED
FOR A PUPPET SIN PRESIDENT AT ALL.
But, that's me only.

Thank You once more.


patriot

patriot said...


Dear Anon 9:22am;

Thank You very much
for the Kind Response.
Frankly,
Your Reply is NOT satisfactory because it
did not answer whether there was DERELICTIONS OF DUTIES BY CURRENT AND OR PAST SIN PRESIDENTS.
AND
HOW DID SINKIES VIEW THE DERELICTIONS OF DUTIES OF THE SIN PRESIDENTS AND HIS/HER OTHER RULERS?

YOU ARE VERY RIGHT THOUGH THAT 70%
DONT
CARE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT THEIR RULERS ARE DOING
AND
I MUST SAY TIAT I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.

THAT IS WHY I DO NOT SEE
THE NEED
FOR A PUPPET SIN PRESIDENT AT ALL.
But, that's me only.

Thank You once more.


patriot

Anonymous said...

tiok!

the 70% had given PAP to do what they want

so no point kpkb kpkb here

because at the endm all of you will only be lan-lan

so don't waste your time about the issues of EP

what can all of you do now, tell me lah

no point, correct?

let them do what they want

hahaha,,,,,,,,,

Anonymous said...

What heavy political price?

- Why not just give everybody a $50 NTUC gift voucher (after the elections)?
- Are Singaporeans cheaper than a Geylang whore?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Dragonfly,

I was also a first batch RC chairman in 1976/77, not in 1974.

If you could give some clues, maybe I know him as a peer.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Many might have read an ass article, accusing sinkies majority group doing not enough to put up a Malay PM. Sounded rightful to demand majority color in sinkies is to put an EP reserved race as PM.

To common sinkies, who want to be PM go get it. But do not demand reserved priority for PM.
The key question is what can the PM do for sinkies at large, not what color he has. Get a PM from presidential race if he or she can turn the backward current sinkieland environment into high tec, salary increase-enable working environment. Who will object him to be PM? Will there be constitutional changes to spell out all CEO COO must be reserved for presidential race?
The answer is one word: consequences.

Open the published statement of one big department store. It has long experienced enough with know how on retails subjects, and support from HQ overseas. The 2017 Q1 was revenues 70millions, and operating expenses more than 70millions. An operating loss. The reported profit was from "other income" with undisclosed details.
This is the situation in sinkieland. Established yet losing in competition.

Let say, this company put in a presidential race CEO and COO to lead this established retail store, will there be huge difference in revenue and expenses? Most sinkies would fear, the expenses would balloon and swell beyond current level. That lead to objections of reserved race CEO and COO.
How sinkies derive such depressing results? It can happen. It will happen. Both exist.

The fear is: Pap change the system to reserve a presidential race for president. This role is not required of capabilities to handle problem on "reserves, key appointments". The color matches the specs is the key defense. The system will continue. Put up a PM as reserved race PM. CEO for sinkiesland companies must follow the color.
What will happen to the products sold to outsider sinkieland buyers? Will there be buyers when products produced are not what they want?

Sinkieland had tried with great success by putting a sale woman to be CEO of a heavy engineering train company. Pap s assignees on CEO, PM, EP, will render success to all the organizations like magic wan.

The word meritocracy has long thrown out of the windows. Using own kind Pap men and women takes priorities. In family owned companies, one secret outsider cannot see is: there are 2 sets of accounts books.
Meritocracy has inherent attributes of open comparison, tested capabilities, to derive the finalized candidates. The selected candidate will deliver the competitive products against world competitors. On contrary, a closed selection, ie only skin color match candidates are considered, the competition is politically correctness weigh against capability. The selected candidate sticks to the masters wills in order to survive day to day against common principles.
Sinkieland is increasingly moving away from integration with 2.5 millions foreigners. Its own citizens fight among themselves by race issues for key positions. Its citizens fight for jobs with foreigners. Pap s grand policies are harming this nation. Voters must take action in GE.

Anonymous said...

For those who had read the book "Animal Farm", please read it again. I have never read a book that is so relevant not only in the past but for the present and the future as well. What a depressing world.

Anonymous said...

Voters must take action in GE.
11:08 am

U don't simply tell voters to take action in GE. U have to convince majority voters that the opposition can be a better govt than PAP, even though PAP is already no good.

Ask yourself, suppose Chee Soon Juan, Low Thia Khiang, Goh Meng Seng, Tan Jee Say, Mrs Chiam and Lim Tean all win.

Can they work together as a cabinet to rule Singapore better?

By the way, some of them are not even on speaking terms with each other, u know.

And Lim Tean is not even a member of any political party now, let alone a leader. He is becoming like a one man show, although his education background and speaking speaking skills are impressive.

Virgo49 said...


Anon 10.50

After the PE, in November, another S$200.00 GST Credits for you.

Why hold until November??

Sinkies knew what to do. No money no talk and no honey.

Mr RB, I reckon that Gentleman in the other post.

Dragon Fly ought to confirm right or not.

Cheers

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Anonymous said...

FIRST 24 HR DEMENTIA POINT LAUNCHED, REMINDER THAT SINGAPORE HAS MANY ELDERLY PEOPLE
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These points, of which there are 58 others around the island, although they are not 24/7, serve as places where lost and wandering people with dementia can be brought to by members of the public.
........................
We seem to be losing our way as a country.
Do you think we need a dementia point to be set up near parliament?


http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/first-24-hr-dementia-point-launched-reminder-singapore-has-many-elderly-people

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Anonymous said...

11:34am
U r in sick bed and u worry the doctors are not good enough to cure the illness. That was your message.
To most or all patients, they entrust their lives to doctors profess on medicines whichever the hospital they are admitted.

If they find the current hospital is inadequate, they will move to a better one ie seek the next team of medical professionals.

Few will insist on receiving treatment from the same team while knowing this team cannot cure. That s you.

If u hire for a company, you do not hire army retired or generals to do the jobs. U hire someone having done similar jobs. In sinkieland, the entire cabinet and sub ministers are army generals or from uniform groups. U know by such mix, first, they dont know the jobs to make right decisions, second they will yes sir to the superior, and they will keep quiet even they disagree with their peer ministers who are generals.

U will not get salary increment because these generals increment depends on increasing population to bolster or swell the GDP. By increasing foreigners who come in with cheaper asking salary, citizens internally are having lower salary each year for the same job. A job 20 yr ago paid this much, is the same pay.

The army team does not bother as long as they get millions dollar pay. Due to lower pay, the retailers are losing money as few customer can afford buying or dinning in aircon places. They have to pay high rental due to foreigners influx jacking up the rental.

There is no solution to this dead road the Pap led sinkieland to. But voters must find own solution. Not depends on the Pap army lost men. They do not know how to get out.

When u vote as voter, u quit to join your Pap club. U join another club. And before you join new club, you worry if the drinks are not real beer. U prefer to drink the sour beer as real because of this worry. Not for other voters. If they are in opposition, they will have to fix the problems when voted in. Or they will be voted out. The same when u go to the new club: u drink to taste the beer. If good, you are right. If no good, you go to next club.
Why? u are the customer. U are the voter. Pap will fear for it if all future voters take this attitude. Very few are like u so fragile cannot stand alone without Pap.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

My God,
Dragonfly, then you were my secretary in the RC.
And you don't recognise me nor I recognise you.

Anonymous said...


Hahaha......

Uncl2s rb and Dragonfly......happy for both of you!

Cheers!

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b said...

Sg was expelled and kicked out of matland by malay and stupid leader want malay to be president. Malay made LKY cried like a baby then. His son is so forgetful and unfilial.

Sg should be a state of usa. USA can send ships to sc sea to spy on whoever anytime. No need via via NK anymore. No need sg president.

Anonymous said...

Annon 11.34. It is true that the current opposition politicians are unable to rule the country. But political take-over is not about a sudden change. It is a process of gaining more seats at each election. If that is attainable, more capable persons will join the opposition parties and soon the ruling party will become opposition. In fact that is ideal as the ruling party starts to lose seats, they will do more to take care of the citizen. Win-Win for all.

b said...

If sg is a state of usa, sinkies no need complain about pap or high population or expensive housing. Can easily move and settle in any usa states.

patriot said...


Haha....

Sir Chua Chin Leng and The Dragonfly were Hatchers/Initiator of RC holding Top Positions in it.

Can You Guys please tell us if You had any idea how we had arrived to the State of Affairs today?
And how and what You Guys did to prevent the Leeders from getting from good to bad to worse.
l can understand how The Dragonfly prepared to runroad and be complete
quitter in no time.
As for Sir Redbean, he is fighting hard at My Singapore News as we can see.

Did it ever occur to the Two of You that You were great admirers of some strongmen that had no blemish in their characters such as sf serving, tyrannical and despotic, working against fellow countryman by cahooting with Japan Imperial Army during WWII and the Murders of Vernaculars and Dialects?????.

No apology for getting personal today as l had said it before and Elder Virgo49 was upsetted and annoyed.
I prefer to hit straight and get to the Point.

Another Commenter and me share a common Conclusion that Sin is in today's condition SIMPLY BECAUSE OF POONEER AND SENIOR GENERATIONS LIKE THE MANY HERE IN MY SINGAPORE NEWS.
THEY TRY TO PUT OUT THE FIRE WHEN THE HOUSE IS RAZED TO THE GROUND.
TOO LATE MY FREN, YOUR FAWNING IN THE PAST RESULTS IN THE ABSOLUTE POWER OF YOUR DICTATORS RULING OVER YOU NOW.
YOU HAD HELPED TO BRING ABOUT THE SITUATION TODAY.


patriot

patriot said...


My apology.

'....did it ever occur to the Two of You that You were admirers of some strongmen who You
BELIEVED were folks with no blemish in their characters such as SELF SERVING...?'

'.....the Murders of Vernaculars and Dialect'.
Like to include
foetuses and babies in the Stop At Two Regulation initiated by the Horrible Monsters.
Whoever had failed to see the Evilness of the Stop At Two Measure, were themselves victims themselves
and
also parts of the Evilness IF THEY HAD SUPPORTED THE REGULATION.


patriot


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patriot said...


Me am impressed withe the Analyses by The Dragonfly at 3:38pm.

The Daft of today is EXACTLY BEHAVING LIKE THE DIEHARD PAP SUPPORTERS IN THE PIONEER AND SENIOR GENERATIONS.
It now begs the QUESTION
CAN THE TURN-AROUND DAFT OLD SINKIES
BLAME
THE NEW GENERATION SINKIES.

As said, me had NEVER like the Pappies in my whole life.

Despite having not much liking and definitely no confidence in National Solidarity Party, which contested in 2011 and 2015, I volunteered in both Elections mentioned, with them.

And the Result of 2015 shows that NOT ONLY the PIONEER GENERATIONs are PAP supporter, the Youngest Local Born and Instant Citizens are by and large also the Same.

THERE WAS SOME IB THE SENIOR GENERATION THAT HAD A CHANGE OF HEARTS AS THEY ARE SANDWICHED AND FEEL THE IMPACT OF HAVING TO SUPPORT THEIR ELDERS AND THEIR YOUNGS.
ONLY THEN, DID THEY REALISE AND REGRET THEIR PAST SUPPORTS OF THE PAPPIES.
Alas it is too late and many shall live in remorse and regret.

Now, CHANGE, IF ANY CAN ONLY COME FROM NATURE
OR
WHEN ABSOLUTE POWER IS
MIS-USE ABSOLUTELY AND
CORRUPTS THE SOCIETY TO
MAKE IT UNBEARABLE TO THE SINKIES.

Do wish that it does not get too bad in Sin and that a saviour may miraculously appears to save the Day.


patriot

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Dragonfly,
For old time sake, we shall go for kopi when you are free. Just drop me a word in my email.

Patriot,
Everyone changed over time. Thinking changed, value changed, personality changed. Even ideals changed. Character can also changed.

I smiled a lot then, but dunno how to smile anymore.

Anonymous said...

Do you think Singapore will only change when cancer strikes?

Virgo49 said...

Walk over, no holiday for Five and half day working people.

Save all trouble counting spoilt votes.

Can extend another one day to be back only on the 23rd.

Too troublesome to reinstate voting rights if not VOTE.

Save taxpayers MONIES.

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patriot said...


Sir Chua Chin Leng
and The Dragonfly;

Points noted.
Thank You Both.

Now that l know that You Two were Ardent Polampas,
but are repenting,
l like You Guys to know that
l appreciate very much that You are better than many of
my own family members and clans who are diehard PAP Supporters, including one elderly who was with the Left in his young days.
So are many who were also detained or affiliated with the Left in the Past.

As a whole currently, l would say Sinkies are not that badly off.
However, with expensive housing, essential and basic neccessity, falling employment and stagnant salary, those below 50 year old with outstanding housing loans, paying Medishield Life Payment for their dependants of old and young shall face much challenges in their survivals.
This is the Curse and Fate that the Sin Leaders as well as their Supporters decree upon the Low Incomes which constitute a major proportion of the Population and is growing fast due to policies dished out by the Rulers.
ALWAYS BEAR IN MIND THAT THE RULERS AND THEIR CRONIES ARE SINFULLY REMUNERATING THEMSELVES MADLY WITH
PERPETUAL APPOINTMENTS. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS
DEED OF THE SIN REGIME.

It does not matter that they approve and reward themselves madly as they did, IF THE PEOPLE ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF.
BUT NO,
THE REGIME BROUGHT IN ALIENS TO WORK, OCCUPY THE HOUSING AND JAM THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND AMENITIES.

COST OF HEALTHCARE AND UTILITIES ARE RAISED THOUGH THE OPERATORS ARE MAKING HUGE PROFITS.
IT IS NONSENSICAL FOR ANY GOVERNMENT TO MAKE PROFITS FROM THE PEOPLE FROM ESSENTIAL GOODS AND SERVICES.
ONLY VICIOUS REGIMES EXPLOIT ITS' CITIZENS TO BENEFITS THE RULERS AND ELITES.

Good to note that some elites are beginning to RECOVER THEIR CONSCIENCES
BUT,
THE NUMBER IS INSIGNIFICANT WHILST
THE RULERS ARE MORE
RUTHLESS BY THE DAYS.

HOW LONG WILL SIN LASTS?


patriot

Anonymous said...

Hahaha.......

As predicted the EP is a leisurely WALK in the garden of the bay.

I love it! I love it! SINGAPORE BOLEH!

Cheers! Yam Yam Yam Seng!

Anonymous said...

Today is 911, election dept already said only one is the qualified Malay EP ..Boleh Mdm President Harimau will become the undisputed unchallenged walkover Erected President of the Republic of Sinkapoor...don't know to be happy or sad as Sinkieland is hit by two 911 ( one in GE 2015 & the other in EP erection 2017)..waah very spooky all these erection happened in the Chinese Hungry Ghosts Month ..is it the Hell Gate of the nether good brothers' at work? or some co-incidence..in USA the nation r remorseful but in little USA its other way round ...wat a joke!

virgo49 said...


Bro, Singapore also born in Seventh (7th) Month.

Sometimes can choose date of birth unless by caseranean.

Blessed by Good Bros??

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Anonymous said...

Do Good.
Do Together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGA-IpAdouk

Anonymous said...

Earn good.
I keep all the money I earn.

Anonymous said...

Do Good, Do Together.
Every month salary enters bank.
That is surely good.
Share with all of us together.
That will be lagi good.

Anonymous said...

So both RB and dragon fly were ex pap supporters? So what made both of u to change side?

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Anonymous said...

To Ah Long Gor is HUAT AH HUAT AH HUAT AH all the way when Mdm Halimah become President of this Little Red Dot...more selfies with jumps shots for Long Gor & his cronies to pose & take pictures...it's a Sillypore with these Sillyporeans people..

b said...

I think what they have said is true. For some time already, the isralis, saudis and americans have worked together to plunder the world.

Anonymous said...

Now we really have a 'boh lan' doing the job of 'cho bo lan'.

Sinkieland is really sunk!

b said...

Black or white mouse is no problem so long as can ask for more ''charity'' money. some great leader called xp said something like that.

b said...

Maybe she can help us rejoin matland and we can buy fh big landed house for rm400k.

Anonymous said...

Yahoo reported #notmypresident hashtag appearing all over the place.